Curse

LathalDraugr · Aug 26, 2005, 02:14 PM // 14:14

For those who don't get it yet:

Protective bond has been nerfed.

It is still possible to solo UW.

See it's not difficult to understand now is it? Please before you go off on a rant about how A.net nerfed your build or start crowing about how whining won over reasoned debate try experimenting and doing more than copying a build off a website. Clearly since they didn't nerf UW itself by adding necros or mesmers A.net feel that soloing UW is fine. They must have thought Prot. Bond was overpowered or broken so they fixed it, it's not a real problem for people with half a brain so please don't get worked up about it.

I'm not the greatest GW player ever but even I managed to come up with a build that can handle 4 Aatxes without any problems. Even got an ecto and sold it for 9k to a 105 who was selling off all his runes.

Sekkira · Aug 26, 2005, 02:29 PM // 14:29

The problem I have is that the skill itself is rendered practically useless. A protection monk wouldn't use it in a fit with the amount of energy loss. Also, if what they're aiming for is to deter people from soloing, it hasn't made much of an impact, except making ectos more expensive.

crimsonfilms · Aug 26, 2005, 02:34 PM // 14:34

Agree. Stop whinning and use your 'imagination' to find another build. That is half the fun. Cops and robbers kind of deal.

Second, Prot Bond also screwed up PvP. Certain team combos, you can have a monk that will take 4-10 minutes to kill because you lucked out and dont have a mesmer on your team. That monk is pretty much useless for his team but I still need to kill him to finish the match. Nothing more annoying than that - OK running rangers who cant deal damage or rez teammates are more annoying.

nailz · Aug 26, 2005, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Seikkira is right...ectos are gonna skyrocket, the smart solo monks will continue to solo, and protective bond is utterly useless. No competent monk would ever use the skill. It would have made more sense to simply remove it.

The smart monks don't have a problem with them nerfing protective bond...there are other ways to continue soloing the underworld(a couple of them) as well as many other places. The smart monk is upset that arenanet continues to wash the balls of anyone willing to complain loud enough.

crimsonfilms · Aug 26, 2005, 02:36 PM // 14:36

Prot Bond is defintely not useless. Its just takes more user skill to use it - just like any game skill (elite or not).

My bet is - most complainers are those who got their invici monks via web tutorials

Mithie · Aug 26, 2005, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Prot bond still has its uses, especially on a secondary monk class.

Carinae · Aug 26, 2005, 02:47 PM // 14:47

This fix actually make Prot Bond just as usefull to a */Mo and it is to a Mo/*.

It's a good fix. Prot Bond is still useful, but not overpowered. You can't aggro 10,000 ataxes anymore, but you can handle small mobs (3-4) safely.

Robos Stavanis · Aug 26, 2005, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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Originally Posted by nailz

The smart monk is upset that arenanet continues to wash the balls of anyone willing to complain loud enough.

That hit the nail on the head. I will still be able to do pretty much what I was able to before, but the results of this last update obviously had little regard for the economy. Perhaps the easy way out, but when something is nerfed, it should only be done if it indeed affects the game of others. In other words, If I truely caused your instanced game to no longer be fun, then that would be a bad thing. I have not seen overwelming proof that was the case with many of these "updates"

EAT U ALIVE · Aug 26, 2005, 02:53 PM // 14:53

so your saying that you can still use protective bond but only can take about 4 axes?? cant u also take crasping darkness also?

Severe · Aug 26, 2005, 03:01 PM // 15:01

No, protective bond is useless for soloing as is.

I've used other methods, just can't take on more than 4-5 aatxes as of now.

Already made 2 trips down, and cleared the same areas I always do with my tweaked build, it just costs me a few more clicks, that all.

I do thank all of you who so adamantly screamed so loud to nerf the "invisimonk" I can still solo there just fine, and you have all made my day by increasing the worth of my storage of ecto, which I received 2 this morning already.

Severe

Mugon M. Musashi · Aug 26, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04

you know, in that "reward" picture, you just could have droped it on the floor...

LathalDraugr · Aug 26, 2005, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by Mugon M. Musashi

you know, in that "reward" picture, you just could have droped it on the floor...

True but I would have still had to kill the Aatxes which everyone knows can drop Ecto. I was merely trying to point out that it was still profitable and possible. The ecto was merely the icing on the cake. A more obvious problem with the screenshots is there's no proof it was pre-nerf and unless I show my build no way to show that I'm not using Prot. Bond. But it wasn't meant as hard evidence just a snub to those who keep screaming it's no longer soloable.

nailz · Aug 26, 2005, 03:25 PM // 15:25

I think I posted this in another thread...but you can still use Protective Bond as a Mo/Me

salja Wachi · Aug 26, 2005, 03:52 PM // 15:52

this will make red Sonya scream even louder for another NERF!!!

which she will not get thank god

funbun · Aug 26, 2005, 04:00 PM // 16:00

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Originally Posted by salja Wachi

this will make red Sonya scream even louder for another NERF!!!

which she will not get thank god

I wish I could see the look on her face right now.

"WTF. Monk still UW soloing? That's stupid. You can only play the game one way MY WAY. Grind the storyline. NO PvP. Just grind."

salja Wachi · Aug 26, 2005, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by funbun

I wish I could see the look on her face right now.

"WTF. Monk still UW soloing? That's stupid. You can only play the game one way MY WAY. Grind the storyline. NO PvP. Just grind."

she is just a griefer, nothing more and nothing less. i actually feel bad for her.

i bet her warrior monk thinks it actually has a chance to be good now lol

myword · Aug 26, 2005, 04:04 PM // 16:04

nerfing prot bond just weeds out those who copy the solo monk build from forums online, that's fine with me!

Mithie · Aug 26, 2005, 04:07 PM // 16:07

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Originally Posted by salja Wachi

she is just a griefer, nothing more and nothing less. i actually feel bad for her.

i bet her warrior monk thinks it actually has a chance to be good now lol

You're just as bad by openly attacking other people with your diatribes. If you have a point, then please argue it civilly without resorting to personal attacks.

Savio · Aug 26, 2005, 04:10 PM // 16:10

OK, BACK to the OP:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LathalDraugr

For those who don't get it yet:

Protective bond has been nerfed.

It is still possible to solo UW.

See it's not difficult to understand now is it? Please before you go off on a rant about how A.net nerfed your build or start crowing about how whining won over reasoned debate try experimenting and doing more than copying a build off a website.

It was pretty sad when I was in Droknar's last night. People kept saying it was dead, my friend and I said it wasn't, then I got a bunch of PMs asking how to do it. Pathetic really.

salja Wachi · Aug 26, 2005, 04:10 PM // 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithie

You're just as bad by openly attacking other people with your diatribes. If you have a point, then please argue it civilly without resorting to personal attacks.

actually not really my dear.

you see i do not want to change the game just because some people can do something i cannot. i believe everyone should have fun in their own way. if it is fun for a solo monk to do 100 UW runs a day i could care less. it has no effect on me whatsoever.

feel free to ignore my posts if you do not like them.